37: Fearless Leap: Building a Private Practice & Family Life with Gabby Palamino

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Narrator

Hello and welcome to Cherie Lindberg's Elevated Life Academy. Stories of hope and healing. Through raw and heartfelt conversations, we uncover the powerful tools and strategies these individuals use to not only heal themselves, but also inspire those around them. Join us on this incredible journey as we discover the human spirit's remarkable capacity to heal, find hope in the darkest of moments, and ultimately live an elevated life.

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Cherie Lindberg

Welcome, everyone, to another episode of Elevated Life Academy, and I am your host, Cherie Lindberg and you might have noticed that we're having a Women Entrepreneurs series. And so our guest today, Gabby, is part of that series. She is a mom. She is a therapist, and she owns her own private practice. And so we wanted to get a chance to talk to her about her journey, her healing journey, how she be, you know, got the courage to take the leap to go into her private practice.

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Cherie Lindberg

And so we would just want to welcome Gabby. And we're going to ask you to introduce yourself, say where you're from and anything else you would like our listeners to know.

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Gabby Palomino

I assure you. Thank you for having me today. And this is exciting. Really. I'm honored to be here. I'm from Wisconsin, and I have been here for most of my life. Right. I left for a little bit. I went to Utah. That's where I got my masters and then came back home. I was called to come back home because this is where my family is.

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Gabby Palomino

And I always had the vision that if if I was if my husband and I were to grow our family, we would want to do it around family. So that was kind of like, okay, well, I don't know if we're going to have kids, but yeah, we were excited to be around family at least. Right? And then we moved right during Covid surprise, just like everybody else.

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Gabby Palomino

And I actually started open my private practice during that time. But I actually didn't have like I didn't really launch it, like, I, I, I opened it, I got that all the business paperwork out of the way and I took on one private client, and then I got scared and I took a job working at a W2 at a community mental health center when that came with, with its own perks and its own challenges, too.

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Gabby Palomino

So that's kind of where I started. And I think initially I was like, okay, we'll see where this takes us. And within a year I, I got pregnant and that really like changed things for me. It really nobody tells you when you get pregnant, you start having kids that it just changes your whole world view. So if you're thinking about having kids, just heads up, changes your whole worldview and we really wanted to focus on on our family and what that would look like for us.

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Gabby Palomino

So my husband and I decided we wanted to both be part time so we could both be involved. That meant no daycare, right? That's had its own challenges too, I'm sure. Especially with running a business. Right? Like and like I have to coordinate everything with her, her daycare schedule. Right? Because it's me or dad. So really it's been there's been a lot of steps along the way in terms of finding the courage to to really go for it.

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Gabby Palomino

And I think part of it was having a family and, and becoming pregnant and really taking a look at life and like realizing that I wanted things to look different. That was the first thing because I'd opened my private practice, but I, I was comfortable enough working in my W2 position as a therapist. And then, you know, with having a baby on the way, things just changed really.

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Gabby Palomino

And then they really changed actually, when I started training for brain spotting. So that's a lot of the stuff that I worked on in my trainings. I worked on kind of this sphere that I had to really, like, go for it. So early on in my training as, in brain spotting. That's what I was working on. And I really kept at it.

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Gabby Palomino

I kept at it. And then I came up with a plan to go into my private practice and build it. And slowly but surely, like we're we're getting there. And I'd like to say, like I'm still growing, keeping myself kind of part time still. Because again, we that's how we want to set things up. But overall, we really enjoy having us both be present and a part of her life.

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Gabby Palomino

And I think another thing that really, for me, pushed me into, like, I think the field in general, but even more so private practice, was wanting to provide services to my community, though I'm bilingual, I'm I'm Mexican American, and I often see that places are full, especially here in Milwaukee. There's not as many bilingual Spanish speaking providers that are available in private practice settings.

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Gabby Palomino

And I just wanted to add to what's available and grow this community of Spanish speaking therapists in private practice. A lot of my clients are bilingual, bicultural, and some of them are not fluent in Spanish, but they feel this need to reconnect with their roots and their heritage, and they seek out somebody that they can connect with. And I am honored to be able to be that person for some of the clients I work with.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah, that's really beautiful. And I really hear your commitment to aligning your career with your image of what you want to be able to provide for your family, for your community, and that you really have created a strategic plan to be able to do that. I hear that and that commitment to that. Can you talk about like, how do you navigate some of these challenges that you're talking about?

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Cherie Lindberg

What what helps you be able to navigate?

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Gabby Palomino

I'd say it's a lot of I'm very like research heavy. I come up with a plan. And so I really think about things you mentioned strategic and I, I like to I like to try to be strategic. That keeps me a little bit more organized. So really like thinking about things and then reaching out for support when I need it.

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Gabby Palomino

I do reach out for consultation when I come across things that are challenging for me in terms of like cases, and then I do attend some like group consultations too. I attend those with Cecilia you connected with, with. So from time to time I attend those. And she's been a great resource to me too. And let's associate Laura Gonzalez Esparza.

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Gabby Palomino

Right. And she has grown mindful psychotherapy about her practice. So she's been a really excellent resource for me and support. And then also connecting with other women who are in this position of going into private practice. In the beginning stages, there was some other women that I connected with who were wanting to achieve the same thing and going into private practice.

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Gabby Palomino

So one is Maranda Malone of New Newman Therapy, and she she's a really just amazing person. And she's she was I think she was highlighted in the news somewhere around here locally. She held like motherless daughters gathering for women who've lost their mother. And so just being able to connect in my circle with other women that are doing the same thing, I have another friend, Melanie Figueroa.

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Gabby Palomino

She also just she's just got her office like a week ago. And so being able to connect and celebrate those things with each other, I think, you know, there's power in community and in being in the presence of others that are working towards their goals, really for me is inspiring, and it fuels me to be around others who are like minded and we can come together and talk about the challenges that we are facing and how we're working through things.

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Gabby Palomino

This is what I'm doing. This is, you know, have you checked this out? And so kind of building my own little circle. Right. And then so many people are coming to mind too, as I'm, as I'm talking about this and I got Cecilia Blanca, she's out in Waukesha. So and there women that are and some of them are bilingual.

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Gabby Palomino

Most of them are I think Miranda's English only, but the rest are bilingual and just the different challenges that we face. Me, Melanie and Cecilia, we're all moms. So like I actually met up with Cecilia at Play Cafe recently and we were like, our kids are playing and we're talking shop. So being able to connect with others that are in the same boat essentially, and, and our girls are both little.

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Gabby Palomino

My daughter's two and a half and her daughter's just turned three. So it was it was great. It was an opportunity for our kids to play and the other kids, because I keep my daughter at home for the most part. But to be able to connect with another adult, one adult interaction is always wonderful. And then to be able to connect with another professional, another woman, another woman of color who faces the same or similar challenges.

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Gabby Palomino

I really lean on my community to help me, and the other big support for me is my husband. He's also been just incredible with being flexible with like, oh, you know, I don't think the schedule is working for me and for him to give me feedback too. Like, this is like this schedule is it's a little strenuous on our family.

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Gabby Palomino

Right. So he Disney feedback and then he's also available to help me you know work through challenges in my head of like how I want to you know, what's the next step that I want to take. He's also a strategic thinker. So when I need some guidance there, he's a great support to me. I'd say a lot of it is my community and the people that I tend to reach out to.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah, when I first met you, I know, I know you were there is fear there about like fully going for it. And you've said that, you know, once you decide, once the family starts to happen, like things change, your worldview changes. Can you maybe share, like how your worldview changed and how that maybe changed your ability? That like, go for it?

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Gabby Palomino

You know, I think it's not something that I fully thought about. The fear was still there. It was. And it was more so just like, okay, like, this is not what I want, right? And you really start to for me anyway, it was I really began to like, prioritize and emphasize like how I want to live my life and how I want to model my values to my daughter and part of that was like was living in alignment with my values and what was going to work for me.

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Gabby Palomino

And that meant like, okay, this is what I want. And what's stopping me is fear. And really just sitting with that fear and accepting that it was going to be there, it was going to just come along for the ride. And I think there's still moments where I'm like, oh, like, like, is this it for me? You know, like, is this?

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Gabby Palomino

I went fully private practice this past year in April, though, April, I completely cut ties with the clinic that I was working at. And then I began trying to navigate insurances and credentialing and hired for help with that, because that was one thing that I was like, okay, you know, I can be fearful and still do things, but this is one of those things that I can do it and have support.

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Gabby Palomino

And so I hired somebody to help me with that. And from there it was just like, okay, we're going to do this in spite of fear, right? And I feel like it's gotten a lot easier, but I'm not even a year in go. That fear that like, is this going to like pan out? I haven't even seen a whole year cycle go by yet.

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Gabby Palomino

I'm still new to the private practice world and I'm very cognizant of that. So, you know, in you get people that come in and they're around for a little while and then they go and but it's also been, you know, word of mouth has been great. You know, my referral sources tend to be either word of mouth. They joined a Facebook group for a therapist in the area, and that's a source of referrals.

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Gabby Palomino

Online profiles like Psychology Today. Right. Those kinds of things. And I think the the motto has just been like, it's okay to feel fear and do it anyway. You're going to feel afraid. And we can still do the things that you'll scary. And I feel like that's really what has gotten me along the way, wasn't overcoming the fear, it was learning that it was okay to feel that and that it was a valid concern.

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Gabby Palomino

Right? Valid concerns. But like, well, I'm living I'm living like the comfort of a steady paycheck. I'm leaving the comfort of a set schedule and like knowing what things are going to be like and knowing what to expect. And I'm giving those things up in exchange for being my own boss and having the flexibility and and being able to do things on my timeline, seeing the clients.

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Gabby Palomino

That makes sense to me that I'm able to help with and being able to provide referrals when I don't feel like it's appropriate.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah, I really, I really hear a change in like perspective. Like initially it was like, I think waiting for the fear to go away and build more confidence. And at some point the conference came, but the fear was still there. And we're just gonna, like you said, go along for the ride. And accepting that fear would be there because you were going into uncertainty.

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Cherie Lindberg

But that didn't stop you. It's very inspiring.

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Gabby Palomino

The image that comes to my mind is a video I sometimes use with clients, from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy passengers on the bus, and we talk about how our emotions are the things that come up in our head, the thoughts, the feelings that come up. They can come along for the ride, but they don't have to drive the bus.

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Gabby Palomino

And so fear is there. But I don't need it to protect me or to take over in order to protect me. And it can just sit down and just come along for the ride. Yeah.

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Cherie Lindberg

So I love hearing from you because you're at the very beginning of your journey in private practice and some of the things that you're sharing, you know, there might be some young women out there that are thinking of maybe going into their private practice and by hearing from you could say, well, you know, Gabby's basically saying, if she can do it, I can do it.

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Cherie Lindberg

And, you know, they're listening to how you connected with community that that really was supportive to you. They're listening to. Yeah, fear is going to be there, but you can still make choices. They're going to help you along your your journey. That all sounds absolutely wonderful. We were talking before we got on that. Now you're starting to go into the learning curve of social media.

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Cherie Lindberg

So and marketing, can you talk a little bit about what that's been like for you?

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Gabby Palomino

Oh my gosh. That's actually forced me to like you know, look at like my personal use of social media too. And the reality is I don't really use my social media. And so that's something that I've really I started to think about it when you invited me to do this podcast interview, and then you said, you know, send me links to like, your socials and I was like socials and I have socials.

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Gabby Palomino

And then I was like forced to reckon with, like, why don't I have socials, you know? And so that one, I've never really been someone who posts a lot personally. And so I find that that's been something that, as I've thought about, like how what do I want to do? And like, how do I want to grow my social media presence?

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Gabby Palomino

Do I want to grow my social media presence? Is that something I want to undertake? And I haven't figured out the answer to that yet. That's kind of where I'm at right now, is I'm thinking about this, and it's something that I recognize the value of a social media presence, and I definitely see that that that's another marketing tool.

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Gabby Palomino

Right. And also, I recognize that there's probably something there for me in, in the area of fear and being seen and being out there that is still showing up for me. And so that's just telling me that I have some more work to do in that. And certainly, you know, there's also a lot of a lot of things happening all at the same time when you're starting a business that there are so many things to set up and do, and social media is one of those things that needs constant upkeep, that needs, you know, you need a post periodically come up with content.

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Gabby Palomino

Although I have seen some resources for social media support and I think if I do decide to, I probably eventually will because that's, you know, how I do things. I'm like, I'm afraid. And then I'm like, yeah, that. What other reason do you have for not doing it right? And so it, it's not to like discredit my fear, but just saying, you know, okay, I hear you and what else.

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Gabby Palomino

Right. So yeah, I've seen some tools through I think someone posted something on one of the social media pages I'm in that there are resources for social media marketing and people to help you like, maintain that. If you need support and guidance with that. So that's kind of where I am able to recognize, okay, there are areas where I need to grow, but in order for me to grow I need additional supports.

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Gabby Palomino

And so I'm I'm a social worker by trade, right? I am a licensed clinical social worker. And if I don't know the answer, I know how to find the answer or I know who to go to to get the answer. And so I also recognize that that, you know, as I'm learning new things, that part of what makes me somebody that's able to go into this is that my ability to work through things, figure them out, struggle with something, and work through until I find the next step remind me of rock climbing.

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Gabby Palomino

I've only done it a couple of times, a handful of times, and there was moments where it was like, you're you're you're scaling and you're trying to find your footing and you're like, I don't really see the next one, but you kind of look around and seal around and eventually you find the next.

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Cherie Lindberg

But yeah, that's a really good metaphor for what you're going through. And it's interesting because I work with a lot of therapist, I do a lot of mentoring for I perform ers and people wanting to expand their business. And it's a very common core thing, a fear of being seen. So it's just interesting that it's that it's very, you know, so, so common.

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Cherie Lindberg

But I, I know you'll you'll get there just like you said, you know, you're taking your steps, you're pulling in, you're really good at gaining resources. And I think the message here that I'm hearing, Gabby, and it's really important for people here, like you don't have to do all this alone. Like having supports is a good thing and a helpful thing.

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Cherie Lindberg

And you you can find resources and you can find supports to help you get where you want to go. And it sounds like you have a really nice circle of supports around you, helping you so and supporting you and your your goals for your business and not just for your business. Really, it feels like the way that you want to live, not just with your career, but with your family, like you're learning to balance and align with, like you said, your your values and and all of that is what is needed to be able to do that.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah. You know, as you said, like my family, I also think about how I come from entrepreneurs. And so my dad is a contractor. My mom owns her own hair salon, but they navigate things differently. But I've seen their work ethic and seen them, you know, dedicate to their businesses and show up for their businesses and in different ways.

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Gabby Palomino

My mom is like, you know, I know that Tuesdays is not a very busy day, but I have to show up and I have to turn the lights on at the salon like I know it's going to be dead, but I have to keep these hours. I have to commit. And it's not just my parents. I have cousins that are contractors.

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Gabby Palomino

I'm specializing in different things. I also think that that has to have had an influence.

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Cherie Lindberg

Some role modeling for sure.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, and in a sense, like my parents early on, they, they, they weren't documented. And so they were kind of they were entrepreneurs, not necessarily by choice. They didn't have work permits. And so they didn't have the luxury to get a W-2 job.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah. They were forced into an entrepreneur ownership I gotcha.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah. And as life went on and they got their status like figured out that at that point, their businesses were in a better position than it no longer made sense.

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Cherie Lindberg

Is they had all that figured out by then.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah. And so they're just like, you know, it just doesn't make sense anymore. So for a long time that was they they were working. They were entrepreneurs. And oh my gosh, the taxes they paid because owning a business that's that's the one thing get a get a tax accountant. But yeah, it was something that I also saw modeled.

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Gabby Palomino

And you know, I think we also kind of grew up my parents also had this in their mind, like, you know, we want you kids to be comfortable. And when I first was like thinking about, like leaving the traditional like W-2 position at a clinic, they're like, are you sure you want to do that? Like, you know, it's hard to start something, but, you know, we're here for you.

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Gabby Palomino

Whatever you need. And my mom, she'll say, you know, if if you need me to, to watch Olivia, my daughter, you know, I'm home on on Monday. She doesn't open her salon on Mondays. Mondays is her day that she's closed. And she's like, it'll be a abuela's day. And so she wants to spend. So Olivia spends half a day with my mom on Mondays.

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Gabby Palomino

And so my family's also been a great source of support for me and great models.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah, yeah. And I also hear family, perseverance. I hear grit in there. So those are all traits that have gotten you where you're at. And I'm sure that they will continue to serve you as you continue to move forward. And it'll be it'll be fun to hear. I love watching folks like yourself start this new beginning and watching where it goes and how you grow and expand, because did you ever think in the past like, oh, I'm going to own my own business, or all of a sudden it's like she just got plant and it started on one, you know?

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Gabby Palomino

Now I'm on the second one. You grow up and I think my, you know, my parents thought process is, you know, we want you to be comfortable. You know, you don't have to start your own business. You can work at an office and you know, but yeah, I think really things changed, you know, during the pandemic.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah. For a lot of people.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah. Because the at that point, I wasn't sure if we were going to want to have kids, if we saw ourselves with a, with a family or not. And so really, I don't know, I think, you know, I moved back home and I was like, well, I could get a job and work in an office, or I could start my own business.

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Gabby Palomino

And while I was looking for a job and, you know, working on my resume, cover letters and things like that, I kind of take breaks from working on my resume and job search. And I was like, well, you know, just because I have I have an LLC doesn't mean I have to do anything with it. Nothing's ever set in stone.

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Gabby Palomino

And so things can change. And yeah, and so that's kind of how that started. I, I now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like how what made me do that.

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Cherie Lindberg

Well I really hear that the way that you want to live your life, aligning with your values, like owning your own business, gives you the flexibility to do that. And so that it sounds like, is what really spurred John.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah. And, you know, even when we saw our lives without kids, my, my husband and I are very like connected. We have like our weekly little book club. So we read a chapter book and then have coffee and talk about it one day out of the week. And, you know, even when we saw our lives without children, we were like, well, you know, why do people work 40 hours a week?

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Gabby Palomino

Like, how do you pursue interests? How do you pursue passions and not make it into work? Right. And so, I mean, I am already not of the belief that people should work 40 hours a week. I don't think we're meant to work as long hours. I think it can kill our creativity.

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Cherie Lindberg

Not to mention our relationships with our family. You need time to be able to nurture those.

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Gabby Palomino

Yeah. So anyway, it's been a wild journey and have run into like setbacks. And I have had to take steps back and figure things out. I've, I started with one builder, tried another one, and there was things that I was like, yeah, you know, that business model works great for you and the clients that are already working with you.

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Gabby Palomino

And there's nothing wrong with the way that they were working, but it just didn't work for the business model that I wanted. Yeah.

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Cherie Lindberg

That's wonderful that you were able to to see. Well, well, Gabby, this has been inspiring and exciting conversation. I hope other young women that are maybe on the fence considering, you know, listen to what you have to say might consider opening up their own business. Like, basically like you can do it. That's kind of how the theme I think of of today's conversation.

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Cherie Lindberg

Is there anything I haven't asked you that you might want to share, or did we cover your story pretty well?

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Gabby Palomino

We feel I think there was one thing I maybe forgot to talk about. We covered it in a different way, but in Living in alignment, it's also working in alignment. And I think part of why when you are putting your, your, your true self out there and allowing yourself to be seen as scary is that is that that brings in the right people, that that brings in the right business for you?

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah.

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Gabby Palomino

I mean, even just like putting my picture on Psychology Today and being a woman of color and I mean, there's no way to not be transparent about it. You put a picture of me like there's no mistaking the fact that I'm a person of color and being young and Latina bilingual, that that's attractive. The people that need me.

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Gabby Palomino

I think just being able to allow yourself to be seen is also going to attract the right people for you.

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Cherie Lindberg

Great. Gabby, thank you so much for being here on our podcast, and we wish you all the best in your continued endeavors, in your private practice.

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Gabby Palomino

Thank you Shari. Thank you for having me today. It was wonderful to connect and I look forward to to hearing other inspiring stories too.

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Cherie Lindberg

Yeah. Thank you.

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Cherie Lindberg

I hope you found Gabby's podcast very helpful. Maybe you're a person that's considering going into private practice and maybe her story might inspire you. Our Women Entrepreneurs series is all about women that are navigating sometimes parenthood, navigating, opening up their own private practices, and all of the things that go with that learning social media, learning about how to balance a budget, maybe, or learning about taxes and learning how to, you know, create money flow or cash flow throughout their business.

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Cherie Lindberg

And these are all things that are not taught in grad school. So if you found this inspiring, then this might help somebody that you know, we really would encourage you to share the podcast because we are all about helping people elevate their lives here at Elevated Life Academy. And we love to inspire and share stories of hope and healing until we meet again next time.

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Cherie Lindberg

Thank you.

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Narrator

Thank you for joining us on another uplifting journey on Cherie Lindberg's Elevated Life Academy. Stories of Hope and healing. If you found resonance or connection with what you've heard today, we encourage you to share this episode and consider becoming a subscriber. Please spread the word so others can live an elevated life.